The B trill Key and E3

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The B trill Key and E3

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I have found that by closing the B trill key while fingering E3 it is much easier to get this note to sound. But is this appropriate or standard practice? I don't want to get into the habbit and then find out later that it is bad habbit.

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What do you mean by the B trill key? The flute only has D, D#, and on some flutes, a C# trill. This link has a graphic that should help make the situation more clear:

http://www.larrykrantz.com/keyname.htm

If you called it the Bb trill, I would assume the Bb shake (which is that little curved key just above the F#/lower G key), but when playing E3, that would be impractical, particularly with an open hole flute. Could you mean the Bb thumb key? In either case (Bb thumb or Bb shake), the Bb key should already be closed by the standard E3 fingering, and closing either should not have an impact. Perhaps if it is there is an adjustment issue that should be looked at. Or perhaps you mean the gizmo (on the footjoint)? If you can clear up which key exactly you're talking about, we should be able to provide better advice.

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flutepicc06 wrote:What do you mean by the B trill key? The flute only has D, D#, and on some flutes, a C# trill. This link has a graphic that should help make the situation more clear:

http://www.larrykrantz.com/keyname.htm

If you called it the Bb trill, I would assume the Bb shake (which is that little curved key just above the F#/lower G key), but when playing E3, that would be impractical, particularly with an open hole flute. Could you mean the Bb thumb key? In either case (Bb thumb or Bb shake), the Bb key should already be closed by the standard E3 fingering, and closing either should not have an impact. Perhaps if it is there is an adjustment issue that should be looked at. Or perhaps you mean the gizmo (on the footjoint)? If you can clear up which key exactly you're talking about, we should be able to provide better advice.
It's the little D# key or trill key. Sorry for the confusion. An insert that came with my method book called it the B trill key.

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sinebar wrote:
flutepicc06 wrote:What do you mean by the B trill key? The flute only has D, D#, and on some flutes, a C# trill. This link has a graphic that should help make the situation more clear:

http://www.larrykrantz.com/keyname.htm

If you called it the Bb trill, I would assume the Bb shake (which is that little curved key just above the F#/lower G key), but when playing E3, that would be impractical, particularly with an open hole flute. Could you mean the Bb thumb key? In either case (Bb thumb or Bb shake), the Bb key should already be closed by the standard E3 fingering, and closing either should not have an impact. Perhaps if it is there is an adjustment issue that should be looked at. Or perhaps you mean the gizmo (on the footjoint)? If you can clear up which key exactly you're talking about, we should be able to provide better advice.
It's the little D# key or trill key. Sorry for the confusion. An insert that came with my method book called it the B trill key.
Including the D# trill in the fingering for E3 is a valid alternate fingering, but will tend to make E3 sharper. You might want to check it against a tuner. As long as you can control the pitch, though, there should be no real problem with using it. You'll want to be sure to stay in practice with the standard fingering in case you need to make a change from E3 to F#3 or something, so that you're not trying to slide your ring finger from the trill key back to the D key.

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flutepicc06 wrote:
sinebar wrote:
flutepicc06 wrote:What do you mean by the B trill key? The flute only has D, D#, and on some flutes, a C# trill. This link has a graphic that should help make the situation more clear:

http://www.larrykrantz.com/keyname.htm

If you called it the Bb trill, I would assume the Bb shake (which is that little curved key just above the F#/lower G key), but when playing E3, that would be impractical, particularly with an open hole flute. Could you mean the Bb thumb key? In either case (Bb thumb or Bb shake), the Bb key should already be closed by the standard E3 fingering, and closing either should not have an impact. Perhaps if it is there is an adjustment issue that should be looked at. Or perhaps you mean the gizmo (on the footjoint)? If you can clear up which key exactly you're talking about, we should be able to provide better advice.
It's the little D# key or trill key. Sorry for the confusion. An insert that came with my method book called it the B trill key.
Including the D# trill in the fingering for E3 is a valid alternate fingering, but will tend to make E3 sharper. You might want to check it against a tuner. As long as you can control the pitch, though, there should be no real problem with using it. You'll want to be sure to stay in practice with the standard fingering in case you need to make a change from E3 to F#3 or something, so that you're not trying to slide your ring finger from the trill key back to the D key.
Thanks a million and I will practice both because I would like to be able to play E3 with standard fingering as well.

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sinebar wrote:
flutepicc06 wrote:
sinebar wrote: It's the little D# key or trill key. Sorry for the confusion. An insert that came with my method book called it the B trill key.
Including the D# trill in the fingering for E3 is a valid alternate fingering, but will tend to make E3 sharper. You might want to check it against a tuner. As long as you can control the pitch, though, there should be no real problem with using it. You'll want to be sure to stay in practice with the standard fingering in case you need to make a change from E3 to F#3 or something, so that you're not trying to slide your ring finger from the trill key back to the D key.
Thanks a million and I will practice both because I would like to be able to play E3 with standard fingering as well.
Glad to help! Good luck!

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