Up bow or Sull'arco

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acolmanj
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Up bow or Sull'arco

Post by acolmanj » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:27 am

Hi,

I'm playing Prelude Francaise (B. Kelly) which has the "Up bow or Sull'arco" that looks like an elongated "V" .... which is for stringed instruments really I think.

How does one play this marking on a flute ?

Thanks
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Post by pied_piper » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:55 am

It's breath mark, take one.
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Not a breath mark

Post by acolmanj » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:19 am

Hi,

Nope it's not a breath mark - that is between notes.

This marking in on the note, and on lots of them in succession.

Any other thoughts ?

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Post by foreverflutes » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:59 am

I would probably just play them as accents, but if anyone else knows what they really mean i'll be interested to know :)

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Post by Zevang » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:50 am

It's probably a peace written for violin. These "V" markings indicate that the violin player must change the direction of the bow playing it "from the tip", also known as "up bow". The other marking that opposes to this one is the "U" (well, almost like the letter U just that it is acctually square), that indicates the direction as being from the bottom of the bow, or "down bow".

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Post by pied_piper » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:45 pm

Take a look at this page and see if you can find the marking that appears in you music. Hopefully, that will answer your question.

http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory21.htm
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Up-Bow

Post by acolmanj » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:53 am

Thanks for the link. This is the relevant entry:
Articulation on Stringed Instruments

An "up-bow" is marked with a V , and the "down-bow" is marked with a down bow .

The modern bow-hold has the bow held between the tips of the fingers and thumb with the palm of the hand facing down towards the floor. "Up" means start at the tip. "Down" means start at the frog which is where your right hand is. On most modern stringed instruments the "down-bow" is stronger than the "up-bow", this due mainly to the greater weight or downward force the player can apply with the bow to the string with the heel (near the frog) as opposed to the tip.
So, trying to translate that to a flute, I'd guess that it's a lighter articulation with some slight marcation on each note... Or of course the more obvious translation is that you are to play the note while sucking instead of blowing :-) Have not quite mastered that trick just yet !

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Post by pied_piper » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:16 am

LOL!! I know some players who have mastered that technique and just suck all the time! :shock:
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